L.E.D. Turn Signals
I posted this a while back, but figured it was worth rehashing. As a side note, this post goes out to the random Canadian dude who called me up a few nights ago hoping I could give him some help with his wiring issues (Nardi, DaveK and JonB can attest to how ironic THAT is). Sorry I couldn’t be more help man, hope you found the answer to your questions on some of the boards I suggested.
LED Turn Signals Story
I recently installed LED turn signals on my custom hard tail, and here is the story and some things I found out, and in particular regarding that mysterious ‘load balancer’.
My custom hard tail rides (and looks) like a dream (at least in my dreams), but with a hard mount 1200 CC Sportster engine, can really shake my teeth out at high RPM. In addition to regularly blowing the incandescent bulbs in the turn signals, the electrical setup has been not as robust as it should have been. So I decided to convert to LED turn signals while doing some re-wiring and reinforcing. LEDs are not only highly shock resistant, but have just about an infinite lifetime, and can be made quite bright (and in choice of desired signal colors, lenses and housings).
Selecting and mounting the LED turn signals is no big deal one way or another, with many 3rd party ones to choose from and with many ways to install. But as forewarned, once you install them, they do not blink. I tried it and found this to be true. The recommendation is to use a ‘load balancer’. But being schooled by my friend in true Jockey Journal manners, I set about to find out why and how, and not just blindly install.
Here is how a typical turn signals and flasher circuit looks like:
Figure 1: Typical turn signals circuitry

If all you do first is replace the bulbs with LED lights, all is normal, except the lights don’t blink when you push the turn signal switch. It turns out that the root cause is very simple. Standard bulbs, at around 20-30 watts, and at 12-14 volts, draw a couple of amps. A note on values specified in the writeup: I purposely use rough numbers, or what in engineering is called ’dimensional analysis’, since exact microamps or milliohms do not matter for the basic problem at hand here. Back to topic: normal electromechanical flashers need an amp or two to flash on and off. But LEDs draw only a few milliamps, which is not enough to activate these flashers. Hence the edict to use ‘load balancers’. So what is a ‘load balancer’? Well, turns out it is nothing but a dummy load, or more simply called: ‘a resistor’. By installing a resistor in parallel with your light, when you push the turn signal switch the resistor acts as a dummy load, drawing the amps you need in order to make the flasher work.
So here is what I did and what the circuit looks like with the resistors installed:
Figure 2: LEDs with resistors circuitry

How to pick the resistor? Resistor is voltage divided by current (ohms = volts / amps). You figure you have 12-14 volts from the battery, and you need 1 amp – so a 10 ohm resistor does the trick (remember – just dimensional analysis here). How beefy a resistor? That is important. Power equals voltages times current (watts = amps x volts), so 12-14 volts times 1 amp yields a 10 watt resistor (dimensional analysis here again – our mantra). You can get away with a lower wattage resistor because current flows through the resistor – and hence heat generated - only during the light-on duty cycle. But anything much less and you will blow the resistor soon due to the excessive heat generated. In my case I used 10 ohm 10 watt resistor for each side, and all fits and works great. But at this point in your design dimensional analysis is to stop as you get to choosing specific parts; for your exact solution you will need to measure and try different values if you are not sure, and to account for different flashers, duty cycles, and resistor types. I actually held the resistor in my hand for example while signaling for 20-30 seconds, and found it to warm up slightly but not more, so all was cool. I also tested to see if I get even and consistent flashing, which I did, at about 50% duty cycle, about 1/2 a second on, about 1/2 a second off. Good enough to hit the road!
OK, so back to that ‘load balancer’ (which we now know is nothing but a fancy name for ‘a resistor’). You can use it, and you may even like the package, or it fits best on your motorcycle. Just be aware that it needs to be connected ‘after’ the switches (i.e. on the other side of the switches from the battery and flasher). This is shown in the figure below, and since most of these balancers are dual balancers (two separate resistors in one package) I show that. Sometimes they do not simply configure well with the bike’s existing wiring, but of course you will re-wire as you need to. As far as prices, two resistors cost $2-$3 bucks at Radio Shack, and a dual load balancer costs $20-$60 bucks at various online catalog stores. By the way, the load balancer I considered first appeared to be about a 10 Watt per side (in resistors power is proportional to resistor dimensions, so one can get a rough estimate by looking at them), and each resistor was about 7 ohms.
Figure 3: Wiring with load balancer

Finally, a word about flashers. An alternative solution to allow flashing at the low amperage of LEDs, is to use a solid state flasher designed for low currents. You need to pick a 12 Volt DC one. A Google search on ’12 volt DC solid state flashers’ will give you leads on that. These things are quite expensive and often bulky, as they are intended for traffic lights, police flashers, and the like. They also require three leads per flasher: one in, one out, and one to activate the flashing from a switch. I have no experience with these, but just wanted to ‘round off’ the story.
All feedback welcome!
This write up was originally posted by Leoj on the Jockey Journal






August 4th, 2009 at 1:13 pm |
The tech stuff you guys post is always helpful. Especially all this scary electrical stuff. Thanks.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
i junked my turn signals,less hassle and looks better
August 12th, 2009 at 2:14 pm |
I’m working on using a Spdt relay to run small spots instead of front turnsigs, small bullets in back
(underside of sprung seat actually) to get rid of the signal stalks in the back as well.
Relay would cut juice when blinker blinks, so a single filament bulb could be both running and turn
sigs.
For a more chopped look, repro BMW barend turn sigs can be used (doing that on another bike.)
August 12th, 2009 at 2:15 pm |
I’m working on using a Spdt relay to run small spots instead of front turnsigs, small bullets in back
(underside of sprung seat actually) to get rid of the signal stalks in the back as well.
Relay would cut juice when blinker blinks, so a single filament bulb could be both running and turn
sigs.
For a more chopped look, bmw barend turn sigs can be used (doing that on another bike.)
August 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm |
Using resistors to load a bi-metal flasher so that it will work with LEDs seems like aa waste of effort. One of the big advantages of LED turn signals is that the current is low enough that the headlight doesn’t dim when the signals come on, but if you add ballast resistors the current is almost the same as for bulbs.
When I changed to LED bulb replacements I had to switch to an electronic type flasher (clear housing with a relay and a capacitor inside), available for about $10 just about anywhere.
A couple of years later, when I replaced all the bulbs in the dash with LEDs, there was no longer enough current in the circuit to make that flasher work so I had to get a 3 terminal electronic flasher like the ones here http://www.tridon.com.au/Products/Product.aspx?SG=8&S=35&G=478&P=104173
Cost = about $15, just about anywhere.
This is not expensive and it is the proper solution.
March 9th, 2010 at 2:55 pm |
[…] My experience with LED’s has been the opposite. There is not enough resistance there to activate the flashers. It’s "fooling" the flasher into thinking one of the bulbs is out. I’ve used electronic flashers in place of the resistors before and they’ve worked. Here’s an article that explains what I’m talking about a lot better than I can explain it: Knucklebuster Blog Archive L.E.D. Turn Signals […]
May 12th, 2011 at 8:41 am |
Thank yoooooooou! Exactly what I was looking for.